Posts by John Aquila

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How long will it take?

by John Aquila in

at some point in the future, it has to finally dawn on people that something is seriously flawed about the idea of jesus coming in the clouds to save everyone who believes- and kill everyone who doesnt..

will people still believe in jesus in another 1000 years?

will people still be saying in the year 5015;.

John Aquila

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I really wish that someday we may eliminate a lot of knowledge gaps that God/superstition resides in. That eventually religions, supernatural, and other non-sense get relegated to a museum in the "This is how dumb we were..." exhibit.

There are studies being done that indicate cognitive dissonance has limits. How far a person is willing to stretch those limits depends on the individual him/herself.

For example, a person who smokes may become exposed to information that says, “Smoking causes, cancer, heart disease That uncomfortable feeling pops in his mind and he starts rationalizing it away by saying; “My health is OK, or if I quit I will start gaining weight which is unhealthy, or I enjoy smoking so I’ll be careful and monitor myself.

In time he get this nasty cough that he can’t seem to shake off and goes to the doctor. The doctor tells him he has beginning signs of throat cancer.He either need to quit or face the consequences. The cognitive dissonance that was causing him to rationalize away the information that smoking is bad, it now out the window. Now he realizes he needs to do something or he will die earlier than he anticipated.

Cognitive dissonance does have limits.

The question is though, what are the limits for all the people like Jehovah Witnesses to finally admit that being in the WT is not only a waste of time but can be dangerous, especially with their blood policy and disastrous with their educational views on schooling. Or all the New Light, lawsuits, or hypocrisy. Once a JW is affected personally, the Cognitive dissonance wall starts coming down pretty quick.

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How long will it take?

by John Aquila in

at some point in the future, it has to finally dawn on people that something is seriously flawed about the idea of jesus coming in the clouds to save everyone who believes- and kill everyone who doesnt..

will people still believe in jesus in another 1000 years?

will people still be saying in the year 5015;.

John Aquila

At some point in the future, it has to finally dawn on people that something is seriously flawed about the IDEA of Jesus coming in the clouds to save everyone who believes- and kill everyone who doesn’t.

Will people still believe in Jesus in another 1000 years?

Will people still be saying in the year 5015;

“Jesus is almost here, it’s only been 5,000 years since he died, stay on the narrow road”

Won’t it be extremely difficult to acknowledge that it’s been 5,000 years that a man named Jesus died so everyone who believes in him can live forever?

(John 11:25, 26) everyone that is living and exercises faith in me will never die at all. Do you believe this?

(Here's a hint, people that are exercising faith in Him "Are Still Dying")

It’s been 2,000 years since a man named Jesus died and every generation since, believed theirs was the generation that would see Jesus coming in the clouds to rescue everyone.

(Revelation 2:16) I am coming to you quickly. . .

(Romans 13:11) for now our salvation is nearer than at the time when we became believers.

(James 5:8 the presence of the Lord has drawn close.

(1 Peter 4:7) the end of all things has drawn close.

The same goes for 1914 as the year Jesus kicked Satan from heaven.

At some point, Cognitive dissonance has its limits.

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Small details...

by Garrett in

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a witness friend wanted to meet up recently and talk.

since this person was a close friend and who i thought had a level head, i'd go ahead and speak with him.

our conversation actually helped me figure a few things out not only for myself but also about the witnesses.. so we're talking and i'm telling him my experience and the doctrines that i disagreed with as well as the scandals that made me disgusted with the organization.

John Aquila

One last thing I finally realized is that the majority of witnesses DO NOT want to wake up. I no longer feel like the brainwashing is all that's keeping them in. I think that deep down, they understand what were telling them and they know that what we're saying is truth, but they don't want to face that reality. For them, living in their world, they are doing something that they believe has purpose. Taking that away from them is devastating and the majority is not mentally capable of allowing their mind to accept the facts that we provide them with.

I agree 100 percent. Which is why I've stopped trying to help wake up all of my friends. If someone is really upset about a change in the Org. I may give him a crumb to see how he reacts, if he doesn't, then I take it no further. He or she can continue to be slave for the WT.

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2 Little Gems

by punkofnice in

owing to the bbc news iro loughborough, i know of a jw couple that were horrified.

they exclaimed things along the lines of, "how could they let this happen?

" "that's terrible of the elders in that congregation.. i guess they think it's just a one off.

John Aquila

A local congregation announced they need more money as they are not meeting their monthly pledge. I can't tell you how good that feels.

Yep, it does feel good when I hear a congregation cannot meet their monthly pledge. Keep those experiences coming.

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Where are the Young Elders?

by James Jack in

i was appointed as an elder when i turned 30, 25 years ago.

which was the norm back then.. now, i very rarely here of a young man becoming an elder.

in our town we have 2 english congregations.

John Aquila

punkofnice

The spirit that appoints was not as strong as the spirit that lures young elders away.

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Where are the Young Elders?

by James Jack in

i was appointed as an elder when i turned 30, 25 years ago.

which was the norm back then.. now, i very rarely here of a young man becoming an elder.

in our town we have 2 english congregations.

John Aquila

Before I left 2 elders were appointed, one 29 years old the other 32 years old. One week later the 29 year old was disfellowshipped for fornication. About two months later the 32 year old disappeared. To this day no one knows where he went. He just picked up and moved with no forwarding address.

The young 29 elder admitted to me that the young 18 year old sister was so hot and wild in bed that it was just worth it- losing his Elder-ship and getting diisfellowshipped. He has no regrets and neither does she. He is still disfellowshipped and living with the young sister. They don't know ttatt, but they know what wild and crazy sex is!

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Bethel Meeting at Regional Convention

by MrTheocratic in

i decided to go to the bethel recruiting meeting yesterday to test out my theory that the organization is in decline.

i assumed that if there is a general feeling of apathy by many in the org, then certainly it would be shown up by the lack of enthusiasm or zeal by many to sign up for bethel service.

well let me say that based on what i observed, this organization is not going anywhere.

John Aquila

Back in the old days all my friends and I used to go to all the Bethel meetings not because we wanted to go to Bethel, but because we wanted to meet chicks. But we never signed up to go. The sisters did the same thing. I bet the great majority of young kids today are doing the same thing.

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